"The Really Good News About God" is a popular edition paperback that presents a lay-person's introduction to Christian Universalism, rather than a theological or philosophical argument for that position.
This page discusses some of the thinking behind the views presented in Chapter Three and also addresses several genuine questions that are often raised when topics such as these are debated.
Hopefully, this will put some meat on the bones in Chapter Three and stimulate healthy, respectful discussion by those who choose to dig a bit deeper.
For those who wish to dig a lot deeper, other books and websites are listed in the Recommended References link towards the bottom of the Topic Menu on the left.
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Predictions about the future are numerous and wildly different, even from those of us who study the Bible, which contains several passages about the future.
Producing a definitive plan for the future, even from the God-inspired Bible, is clearly fraught with difficulty. Indeed, it is quite likely that anyone who claims to have the future all worked out will turn out to be wrong.
Why? Take for example Jesus' coming to earth.
Although Jesus' arrival in the first century AD was forecast frequently in the Old Testament, his arrival seemed to surprise most people at the time. So I can't help thinking that any future coming will surprise again, despite the amount of space the Bible gives to its discussion.
Nevertheless, let's be brave and venture into this perilous topic, while humbly admitting that the future will occur exactly as God has planned it and not necessarily as any of us might be expecting it.
God loves us and desires us to know him and live in fellowship with him.
God's precisely designed creation, together with the miraculously preserved writings of the Bible, are the major sources we have for knowing about God and his plans.
After leaving planet Earth, Jesus Christ, God's Son, sent the Holy Spirit to assist us in knowing about God, and more importantly, enabling us to actually know him.
So we will use observations from creation and snippets from the Bible to help us explore this topic, and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us and open our hearts to what he reveals to us.
The challenge may be simply stated ...
Determine the end result and suggest possible routes that may be taken to arrive there.
But, as most people know, even agreeing on the end result has been too great a task for most of us.
Nevertheless, I am going to have a stab at it by quoting four verses from the Bible.
(Other verses stating the same end result will be quoted throughout the following sections.)
When I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to me. [ John 12 : 32 GNB ]
In all his wisdom and insight God did what he had purposed, and made known to us the secret plan he had already decided to complete by means of Christ. This plan, which God will complete when the time is right, is to bring all creation together, everything in heaven and on earth, with Christ as head. [ Ephesians 1 : 8b - 10 GNB ]
We’ve seen for ourselves and continue to state openly that the Father sent his Son as Savior of the world.
When he served as a sacrifice for our sins, he solved the sin problem for good—not only ours, but the whole world’s.
[ 1 John 4 : 14 and 2 : 2 TM ]
The only certainty I can see in this whole discussion is the end result for all of God's creation.
And it will be magnificent. Why?
Because God, who is love, wants only the best for us and, because he is also sovereign, will see to it that we get it.
Now we get to the hard part - possible routes God will choose for us to arrive at his chosen destination.
I will use the remaining sections of the topic to explore the possibilities I see. Some of this exploration will be gathering bits from the Bible, and some will be me trying to tie the bits together.
As always, you are welcome to ask questions and/or share your insights using the "Ask Your Question" link at the bottom of the Topics menu.
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Let's face it, we can only speculate about the future.
There are not many clues in the Bible to begin with, and those we have are open to seemingly endless interpretations.
However, we must have a starting point for our speculations.
What are the basic "givens" or foundation stones on which all other facts and/or opinions must stand?
1. God's ultimate purpose, his end result, is clearly revealed in the
New Testament ...
God desires all to be saved. (1 Tim 2 : 1 - 6)
God is the Saviour of all. (1 Tim 4 : 10)
God will bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth. (Eph 1 : 9 - 10)
God will become all in all, that is, everything to everybody.
(1 Cor 15 : 28).
2. God will achieve this purpose through Jesus, who is ...
The Reconciler of all (2 Cor 5 : 18 - 19; Col 1 : 19 - 20)
The Drawer of all (John 12 : 32)
The Sacrifice for all (1 John 2 : 2)
The Saviour of all (1 John 4 : 14; John 12 : 47)
The Light of all (John 1: 4 - 9)
The Giver of Life to all (1 Cor 15 : 20 - 22)
3. God always remains true to his character ...
God is love. (1 John 4 : 16; Matthew 5 : 44 - 45)
God is in control (Proverbs 19 : 21; Ephesians 1 : 11)
God is kind and merciful to all (Luke 6 : 35 - 36)
God's grace completely saves us (Romans 5 : 15 - 21; Eph 2 : 4 - 8)
To me all other events or opinions that I wish to include in my picture of the future must stand on and be consistent with these three "givens".
For example ...God has already reconciled the world to himself.
(2 Cor 5 : 19)
All those who know God and Jesus Christ have eonian life, that is, are alive and will be alive in the coming ages. (John 17 : 3)
The Book of Life increases in size at the Great White Throne judgement. (Revelation 20 : 11 - 15) *
The Lake of Fire is God's refining or purifying process, the death/destruction of all that offends God. (Malachi 3 : 3;
Revelation 20 : 14) *
Death itself will be finally removed, so that only life remains.
(Revelation 21 : 4; 1 Cor 15 : 25 - 26)
What do you think?
Are there other "givens" that need to be added to the list?
Do any of mine not stand up to scrutiny?
What other events or opinions that are consistent with the "givens"
could be included in the examples?
Use the "Ask Your Question" link on the left to let me know your thoughts.
* See "God's Merciful Judgement" page for discussion on these points.
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I love reading, researching, and studying the Bible.
Well, maybe not all of it.
I usually jump right over the long lists of genealogies, but one day I became inquisitive and stopped to have a closer look.
In the New Testament, Matthew and Luke both have genealogies of Jesus.
Although Luke was most likely a Gentile, his family tree listed 76 men, all Jewish.
Matthew, a Jew, took a different route and listed 40 men and 5 women, and by including the women, he picked up some Gentiles on the way.
Tamar was Gentile daughter-in-law of Judah, who didn't honour a promise he made to her, so she boldly set him up for a pay-back. What a bold, inventive Gentile woman!
Rahab was a Gentile prostitute from Jericho, who risked her life to save Joshua's spies.
Ruth was also a Gentile - the saintly, widowed daughter-in-law of Naomi, who became the wife of Boaz and the grandmother of King David.
Bathsheba was possibly not a favourite of Matthew because he just called her Uriah's wife. Uriah was a Hittite, so she was probably a Gentile also. She was immodest and unfaithful to Uriah, but became the the wife of King David (who himself was an adulterer and murderer) and mother of King Solomon (a polygamist). (Some Christians are surprised to discover that the great Jewish King David had a Gentile grandmother and a wife who was probably a Gentile.)
Mary was a saintly, Jewish young lady, yet was seen in her community as immoral and worthy of being stoned. Nevertheless, she accepted her Godly calling, knowing it could well cost her her life.
Matthew's list might give us a clue about who Jesus came to save.
Men and Women, Jews and Gentiles, Saints and Sinners are all there, and we don't have to look too hard to see some reflection of ourselves in the list too !!
Clearly, He came to be the Saviour of us all.
Jesus said he would draw all people to himself.
Paul says, “We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Saviour of all people, especially of those who believe.”
John says, “Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.”
And Matthew finishes his gospel with Jesus sending his disciples to all nations, inviting them to become his disciples.
It doesn't matter who we are, Jesus died for our sins.
Your sin, my sin, has been handled; as has our neighbour's and anyone's we meet in the street.
When we come to believe that, we begin to enjoy life in fellowship with God.
So, as believers, who know what God has done for us, who have begun to live and enjoy life in fellowship with him, Paul encourages us to be thankful and to become ambassadors for God.
My prayer for us all is that we will live in such a way as to become reliable and effective ambassadors for God, the Creator and Saviour of the world, by showing those who don't yet know Him, the true value of new life in Christ.
This section contains the questions I have most frequently been asked on the broad topic of God's Awesome Plan, and my usual answers to these.
As you read, please remember that some questions may not have precise answers. There are so many things we creatures do not know about our Creator and how he operates, even though we often have many clues in the Scriptures.
However, if you have some better answers than I have presented here, please offer them through the last item, Ask Your Question, on the Topics menu on the left. I will really appreciate being able to add to my understanding through your input.
You can also ask a question of your own by selecting the same item, Ask Your Question, on the left. If your question gets asked frequently enough, your question and my answer will be added to this page.
In a recent Bible study discussion on God and the possibility that He might, or might not, be involved in our personal lives, it was suggested that we must be rational when formulating our ideas about God and the ways He operates.
This really grabbed my attention as many readers will know how God has been involved in our lives over several decades in ways that are impossible to describe as rational.
The ways in which God has shifted us around the country, the miracles we have been privileged to see in our various adventures and ministries, and the way He has brought us through several family challenges, all point to a God who intervenes in lives in ways that refuse to be restricted by mankind's sense of rationality.
But let me generalise beyond my personal experience, so we can all address this question together.
God's grace is nowhere near rational.
Is it rational, can we really comprehend, that the Creator of this universe extends grace and mercy in such awesome measure as He has and does towards such a wayward and rebellious humanity?
Christ's resurrection is not rational - nor will ours be.
Is it rational that God's forgiveness is given to all without any performance or sacrifice on our behalf, but solely as a result of Christ's death and resurrection?
Christ's teaching is often not rational either.
For example, He tells us to .....
For me, God is way beyond rational.
To create this enormous universe out of nothing is way beyond rational itself, let alone His dealings with it and those He created to populate and manage it.
"Rational" belongs to our limited, but logical, way of thinking - not to God's.
We can't confine God to the same size box most of humanity lives in.
Let's continue to look for the irrational, the supernatural, from the God who loves, forgives and sustains us without limit.
Many authors suggest that when people leave this planet (physically die) they remain asleep until a resurrection sometime in the future.
The "goodies" get resurrected to be given Life, and the "baddies" get resurrected to be given death. (Some resurrection that would be !)
But I find that view inconsistent with the view taught by Jesus and His followers, who say that Jesus came to give us Life right now.
Do we get that Life and then have it taken from us for the time between when we physically die and some future resurrection?
That doesn't seem very logical to me.
I appreciate that several Bible verses can be quoted to support the idea that when our physical bodies cease working and we depart this planet we are dead, real dead, or at least sound asleep, but they are all Old Testament verses, statements made by poets (and others) expressing their understanding at that point.
Here are a couple......
Among the dead no one proclaims your name.
Who praises you from the grave? [Psalm 6 :5 NIV]
For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
and even their name is forgotten.
Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.
[Ecclesiastes 9 : 5 - 6 NIV]
Indeed, without further revelation from Jesus, we would not be in a position to say anything much different.
The physical evidence screams similar conclusions at us too.
But look at the new information Jesus reveals ...
“I am the resurrection and the life.
The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;
and whoever lives by believing in me will never die."
[John 11 : 25 - 26 NIV]
“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." [John 5 : 24 NIV]
Will never die .... has crossed over (past tense) from death to life.
John affirms Jesus' words with ...
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
[1 John 5 : 13 NIV]
Jesus goes even further than promising Life for His followers ...
"But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.” [Luke 20 : 37 - 38 NIV]
I appreciate that the theology of many hymns sometimes doesn't follow Scripture too well, but I like the Christmas Carol "Hark the Herald Angels Sing," which has this verse .....
Hail the heaven-born Prince of Peace!
Hail the Son of Righteousness!
Light and life to all He brings
Risen with healing in His wings
Mild He lays His glory by
Born that man no more may die
Born to raise the sons of earth
Born to give them second birth
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
Not too much about death there!
Anyway, what do you think happens to us when we leave this planet?
Would love to hear your thoughts.